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Bullshit Corner => In The Garage => Topic started by: annie on November 18, 2018, 04:57:36 PM

Title: Green Thing
Post by: annie on November 18, 2018, 04:57:36 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4905/31001852977_81972135d7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PewANv)002 (https://flic.kr/p/PewANv) by jon clinton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141646535@N02/), on Flickr

Tis a bartard even with the help of sunshine
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on November 18, 2018, 08:01:54 PM
Ain't you got any piston ring compressors? :rain: Is that your paintwork? :cool: Don't think you need those rubber cylinder gaskets though. Nasty things to clean off as well.  :angry:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on November 18, 2018, 09:45:29 PM
I've never used compressors,pistons already in the barrels.Me dads method
Rattle can PJ1 on a well cleaned surface.
I did wonder about them rubber rings,they don't want to sit right in their grooves (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/headbanger.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Plod on November 19, 2018, 07:40:48 AM
Nice job with the PJ1  :cool:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on November 27, 2018, 05:11:01 PM
What is it about Shiney New Stuff?

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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on November 28, 2018, 08:19:00 AM
Lovely John. I use a bit of goo round the cam tunnel on both sides of the copper gasket.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Jonesy on November 28, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
Did you purchase the copper gasket or make it yourself? If purchased where from......if you made it, how thick?  I'd like to have one. Thanks
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on November 29, 2018, 04:11:10 PM
Ello,
I bought it from Arizona, US, on.. www coppergasketus ..
I emailed him ,giving sizes and opted for 0.32". He is able to make any variation you want, ie bore size.
I notice that there is  a www dot copergasketau  near Victoria
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Jonesy on November 29, 2018, 09:14:22 PM
Thanks annie, I'll check 'em out
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on December 09, 2018, 04:28:10 PM
Assembly Time

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Light as possible to begin with
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on December 10, 2018, 07:28:22 AM
Nice work John, its getting me fired up, my XJ frame is ready for powder coating or painting, can't decide which yet.

Keep up the good work and keep the photos coming.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on December 10, 2018, 10:20:11 AM
Ta for that.
The frame was powder coated,well sort of.Thick on top surface,but grinning through and rusting on the underside as though the gun was in a fixed position.
Consequently not a fan of powder coating.At least if your spraying yourself you know whats on there      Bah Humbug and all that
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on December 20, 2018, 10:22:07 PM
Have 3 rear swingarms with wheels,and you'd of thought I'd be able to make up one decent rear end.     WRONG
Every rear wheel is damaged  to some extent. Common to all is damaged/butchered threads for discs.
Can deep gouges on the rim be repaired by, Araldite? looks like previous tyre changes was done with shovels.
Was hoping to do away with inner tube.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on December 21, 2018, 04:51:55 PM
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Is this what they call   Fair wear and tear
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on December 21, 2018, 04:54:25 PM
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Assembly so far.
Rear end taking up time
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: mathh on December 21, 2018, 06:25:08 PM
that looks great!
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on January 15, 2019, 12:25:59 PM
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Progress ,Tis slow.Ready for the meet?  (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on January 15, 2019, 12:28:34 PM
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Got this lot to wade through yet....
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on January 15, 2019, 02:15:58 PM
Getting there mate. Looking good. Have you fired it up yet?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on January 15, 2019, 03:35:04 PM
Looking good John, inspiring me, I started to get my XJ frame cleaned up for painting (well girlfriend Sharon attacked it with drill and wire brush drill attachment thingy :rofl:)

And fired up the trike at the weekend. Its looking like its going back to being a two wheeled motorcycle. Anyone like to buy a back end of a trike with axle and wheels?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on January 15, 2019, 05:36:10 PM
Quote
Getting there mate. Looking good. Have you fired it up yet?

That's the priority,to prove the engine.
Loom is burnt in the usual places,so sorting.1 coil is sus so looking at Dyna's, as had no problems on Yellow Bitsa,and have to clean and  rejet FJ carbies.
So a bit to go,and only 5 months till the longest day (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/grin.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on January 25, 2019, 03:00:35 PM
Some Goodies came today

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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on January 25, 2019, 07:23:18 PM
Oooo. Very nice. How much were they if you don't mind me asking? I paid just over 200 quid for genuine Yam ones.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on January 25, 2019, 07:52:04 PM
Hi Alex,      sorry to say, 165 inc leads to my door.
Just couldn't do with the hassle of ancient coils and leads.Wanted something with a bit of punch in it.
Suffered loads of grief on the yellow thingy until I changed to Dyna's
Doesn't take long to mill out an adaptor block 
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on January 25, 2019, 08:14:44 PM
That's a fair price mate. I wonder if the Dynas last as long as the Hitachis? I only bought new coils 'cos i was trying to eliminate every fookin' problem with that MNS from Hell. The coils i took off are still good but i'm using the new ones. It would be rude not to.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on January 27, 2019, 04:54:08 PM
Extending shortened  leads to fit new type Blade fusebox.As a start point anyway

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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on January 28, 2019, 07:06:27 AM
 :cool:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on February 01, 2019, 07:33:20 PM
I do hate these  fiddly switches,and broken connections.

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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on February 01, 2019, 08:17:26 PM
We could all start sending you our dodgy old switches for re-furb. You could end up with a nice little cottage industry to supplement your pension. Ooops. LOL.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on February 01, 2019, 08:59:52 PM
Fek off  (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/finger.gif),Your all chasing me
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on February 02, 2019, 10:25:01 AM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on February 23, 2019, 05:51:44 PM
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Not very Green at the mo,soon change that (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/yipee.gif)
Put a spare front end on so as to rejig the lift, and away I go.
Seems quite low to me 
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on February 25, 2019, 04:23:51 PM
Feeling so much better now that I've changed the Chrome crap to a more sensible  colour (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/grin.gif)

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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: AVONANIMAL on February 25, 2019, 05:16:06 PM
Looking good

The Green thing is starting to get there  :clap: :clap: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: robotnik on March 01, 2019, 03:32:51 PM
I love that green, awesome choice of colour.
I like the bike stand too, I could do with something like that.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on March 01, 2019, 03:37:08 PM
Folk will think its a Kwak
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on March 01, 2019, 03:48:48 PM
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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: robotnik on March 01, 2019, 07:26:04 PM
I thought it looked a bit like CB200 green. :)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on March 01, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
Went to paint shop looking for a metallic green.On being shown about 30 variations,got totally overwhelmed and just pointed at one.
It turned out  to be a Triumph coulor,,of what I've no idea.
Nothing like a bit of confusion,eh (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/grin.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: The Fat Controller on March 01, 2019, 10:42:44 PM
(https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/upload/871/images/1752x1168/02113857TriumphSpeedTriple.jpg)

Look familiar..?  97 - 04 Speed Triple...
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on March 02, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
That looks about right.Fek all the matter with your eye (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/evil.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: mathh on March 02, 2019, 11:11:03 PM
Quote
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I love that colour!
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on March 03, 2019, 01:27:51 PM
Unbelievable,2 engines and both have missing oil-filter spring and washer .Feckers
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on March 04, 2019, 08:29:04 AM
I like the colour.  :fatfrog:

I never use the spring or washer on any of my bikes, I measured up the filter, housing and bolt and there no way the filter can move away from where the holes do the business.

Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on March 04, 2019, 07:19:26 PM
Ta,That's reassuring,perhaps the P.O.s weren't nobs after all (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/finger.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Miti on March 05, 2019, 10:26:16 PM
That looks about right.Fek all the matter with your eye (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/evil.gif)

Well, at least I ain't colour blind... ;-)

Miti
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on March 07, 2019, 06:45:21 PM
Strangely enough I've just bought one of these, only in black.

(https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/upload/871/images/600x380/02113857TriumphSpeedTriple.jpg)

Look familiar..?  97 - 04 Speed Triple...
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on March 08, 2019, 08:13:41 AM
Bought,I don't understand?(http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/shocked.gif)
Did you mean you was given one ,very cheap. (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/grin.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on March 11, 2019, 07:17:39 AM
Hahaha John you know me well. I did buy it, but for 1200 I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on March 11, 2019, 12:56:35 PM
You'll be pleading poverty next and saying you can't afford the camping weekend.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on March 11, 2019, 03:25:22 PM
Well it is one of the reasons I'm not going to Finland.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: mathh on March 11, 2019, 07:03:05 PM
Strangely enough I've just bought one of these, only in black.
(https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/upload/871/images/600x380/02113857TriumphSpeedTriple.jpg)

Look familiar..?  97 - 04 Speed Triple...

Mmmm, recently bought one of the first, a 955(?) for 750 euros, only 30k kilometers. Gave it a full service but at the first outing on the track at moderate speed the engine seized .... I hope you have more luck with yours  :wink:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on April 03, 2019, 09:53:02 AM
Unable to post updates ,Flickr wont upload my pics
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on April 03, 2019, 03:09:34 PM
 :angry: :frustrated:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on April 03, 2019, 08:10:12 PM
Progress is slow,so many little details,plus countless attempts over 3 days to get pic loaded onto Flickr.
Just the carbs to wash,clean and rejet and then ready for a startup.
Next,Forks,Calipers,Master cylinders, slave to re-build and a Green sheen, of course, to the side and rear plastics.

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Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: AVONANIMAL on April 03, 2019, 10:23:56 PM
coming along nicely well done

 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on April 04, 2019, 07:36:49 AM
Brilliant work John
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on April 04, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
Coming together now mate.

Don't know what trouble you had with flickr, but i uploaded two pictures, one yesterday and one today with no problem. 
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Andy on April 04, 2019, 06:12:37 PM
Loving the colour John!  :cool:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on April 16, 2019, 05:06:32 PM
Got absolutely nowhere today,except pissed off.
Clutch cables a plenty have I...,all 2 " too long or too short .
No Throttle cables that fit,have about 5  of them.Plus no throttle adjustment thingmebob.
And one of those little springs that go before the washer and tiny o-ring on slow run mixture has gone walkabout..Gave up after 2 hours grovelling on the floor.(http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/hitme.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on April 27, 2019, 07:12:32 PM
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Almost ready to fire up.
Forgotten what a pig to get airbox and carbies in
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Shappers on May 02, 2019, 02:09:09 PM
Lookin good. I use the same coils and leads.

Won't be long now!
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: fortj3 on May 04, 2019, 05:18:45 PM
I absolutely hate having to remove/install the air box on mine.
Thinking of using pods with the Mikini pumpers.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on May 16, 2019, 07:48:21 PM
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Front end almost done.Lots of bubbles from the master cylinder,so the elastic band trick overnight.
Ran it up last week,started within 3 seconds on choke,and ran steady after 30 seconds (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/grin.gif)
Nasty  banging noise coming from left hand crank cover which had me worried for awhile.
When  I connected strobe light and started  up the [top hat;/adv-retd] plunger was banging  away,and as soon as I restricted the vac line it ran as smooth as,much to my relief (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/cheer.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on May 16, 2019, 08:52:17 PM
Top stuff Jon mate. Looking good.
Elastic band trick. See my signature. LOL.
Soon be ready for that camping weekend then?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on May 17, 2019, 08:06:24 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on May 17, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
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Totally pissed off now...Never took much notice of the shock mounts until this afters..looks like some ones drilled out and put in some obscure short bolt.
Not quite 10mm 1.5 pitch,almost 3/8" Witworth 
So buggered for awhile,till I figure a solution
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Plod on May 17, 2019, 08:51:24 PM
Looking good what you've done so far - shame about the shock mounting point - hope you get over that one soon without losing too much sleep - regards Kev
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on May 24, 2019, 04:08:13 PM
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The only progress I'm making is in the paint department.
Tried starting it up this afters,petrol pissing out from the vent hoses and air box, running  rough. not at all happy with these FJ carbs
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on May 24, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
Are they FJ11 or 12 carbs Jon?  Have you got the specs for the float height?  Let me know if you haven't and i'll post them up for you.
Here they are anyway, float height is the same for the 11 or 12 @ 22.3mm + or - 1mm
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on May 24, 2019, 07:37:47 PM
Thanks for that Alex.They are 91 Fj 1200 3XW abs with all new inards and rejetted,all to no avail cause they  flood.
I bench set then and had  clear silicone lines to check float height .Did wack  em when the air box  was dripping,but they was oozing from the individual overflow lines.
The big issue [to me] is getting the feckers out,starting with the battery, ect.
XS alan has a set taken from one of his that I'll fit,so in the meantime I will carry on building
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on May 24, 2019, 07:58:36 PM
I bench set then and had  clear silicone lines to check float height .
You mean checked the fuel level with the clear silicone lines and not the float height, yes?
Well the fuel level is different between the 1100's and 12's.
Fuel level for the 1100's is 3.0mm + or - 1mm and the 1200's, ITX, 3CV or 3XW, it doesn't matter, is 2.5mm to 3.5mm

Are you within that?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on May 24, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Yep,meant fuel level...when i get them out I'll have another look
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on May 26, 2019, 02:51:50 PM
Float levels are 23mm and fuel pisses out of the 4 overflow black lines when set up on  bench.
Thrown them in a box and await Alans hand me downs...................
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on May 28, 2019, 03:26:02 PM
John, have you tried manually operating the floats whilst connected to a fuel supply, with the float bowl off, gently hold the float up - float needle in place, just to see if they will work at all, it seems a bit odd all 4 being the same. Maybe something amiss with assembly or components.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on June 01, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
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In FJ Carbie heaven at the mo

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Comparing mine right, with Alans  left.The only difference found is float height by a mil and a bit.
Rick came by for a visit and showed me a Yamaha diagram that took measurements from the screw head/ flange that holds the float bowl to the carb .
More research needed
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: rick on June 02, 2019, 11:24:44 AM
good  to   see you  yesterday john ,  yup  the  diagram   I  showed  you was  from  the    Yamaha   service  manual for the  sport  5k7    or  1.1s   "S "    variant .   which does`nt  give a  float height  in mm as  such    but  the  diagram   shows    a  WG  level   to  float bowl  chamber  +_3mm  ,  the  image shows  the  level  pretty much  with the screw  heads to  the float chambers ,    and after   a  number  of   fill ,drain ,adjust float tangs , fill and measure again  .. hokey  cokey ,  once  I was  happy   and refitted  to the  bike  again .  ran the best   it  ever  has    .   great  ride  down n  back   ,great  weather ,very little traffic   as I  took all the  minor  country  rds  back .               
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on August 07, 2019, 05:20:17 PM
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It took some time,but with some pushing and shoving From XS Alan the feker worked straight off.
Now on the hunt for a seat..Then I can give it  a bash
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on August 07, 2019, 05:22:03 PM
Supposed to be a video,is it?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: xsalan on August 07, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
Sounds good john.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on August 09, 2019, 11:42:19 AM
Nice one John :cool:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Shappers on August 12, 2019, 07:51:04 AM
Nice carbs  :winker:

Let us know how they run.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on August 29, 2019, 05:32:11 PM
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Done 5 miles so far,goes like stink,even with new pistons and rings.
Filled the tank at a  petrol station and have a steady drip  from the cap overflow hose.Presume the internal pipe is perforated,not quite sure how to fix.
Have a big grin now (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/grin.gif)
Still not sure if I've overdosed on the GREEN
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Steve D on August 30, 2019, 08:30:51 AM
Nice one John :cool:

Colour looks good to me - perhaps some subtle decals are needed?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on August 30, 2019, 09:38:04 AM
Looks good :grin:
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on August 30, 2019, 03:55:23 PM
Glad you've got it up and running mate.
What's with that funny little silencer?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on August 31, 2019, 07:21:35 PM
The Moturd silencer is ridiculously huge /long and heavy and would need a red flag tied to it to warn peeps not to trip over it!
So a little cheap Eytie [Italian for those that don't understand,English] straight through silencer off fleabay does the job nicely for me (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/wink2.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 05, 2019, 08:33:02 PM
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Fecking thing.Was toying with fitting said oil cooler to Bike.How come radiator is 20mm wider than bracket?
Not going to bother now (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/finger.gif)
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on September 05, 2019, 09:00:21 PM
Doesn't the rad fit over the bracket? And is the bracket upside down?
See those rubber grommets and the thread in the bracket mounting points.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on September 05, 2019, 10:05:35 PM
Yep the cooler goes over the outside of the bracket
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 05, 2019, 10:32:38 PM
This bracket has a 3 point fixing and can only  mount one way.
The rad is 200mm lug to lug and bracket 180mmlug to lug
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on September 05, 2019, 10:37:15 PM
The lugs do bend considerably
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 07, 2019, 08:04:10 PM
Quote
The lugs do bend considerably

Way to go,ta.
Done 60 miles now,between 60 and 100 psi in the bores.How many miles to run it in?
Still goes like stink.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on September 08, 2019, 12:46:18 PM
How many miles to run it in?

I'd go for 500 and then change the oil and filter. Don't be gentle with it though, give it some.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on September 09, 2019, 07:24:30 AM
Wow 60 to 100 is low, sure you're testing it right, I'm surprised it runs at 60 psi compression. After 60 miles the bores/rings should be run in, we don't run the race engines in at all, straight out on the track at 10,000rpm and making good compression. Have you tried a leak down test?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 10, 2019, 11:30:42 AM
Yes,um.Done a whole 90 miles now.
Did a cold compression test last night.125,95,75,70.
Leak down tester on its way,but me thinks valves need adjusting.
Dosn't  it need more bedding in?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on September 10, 2019, 09:16:19 PM
After 90 miles the rings will be well run in, at 9 miles the rings would have been well run in. Think about how many minutes riding 9 miles is and at what revs, 40mph at roughly 4000rpm? for 15 minutes? is 60,000 revolutions, which is 120,000 strokes of the bores that the piston rings do of the bore.

Nope it doesn't need more bedding in, the fact you have one reading of 125 psi confirms this.

Yes definitely try checking the valve shims.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 21, 2019, 05:13:00 PM
Checked all the shims,altered 2 by a tad.
The leak down tester is sending me up the  wall.I try TDC and a fraction before,but it just spins.Are you supposed to lock engine?how?
Still goes like stink with 2 up,and 70 psi  on no 4
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: bradster on September 22, 2019, 11:44:21 AM
hi ,I have been following your build and it looks good  :clap:   I did a new piston top end rebuild at the beginning of the year ,when  I first did a compression check I was a bit alarmed at the difference on one cylinder .  I removed  the plugs and took a oil can and put a small drop in the bore (the one that read low ) and it raised the compression straight away ...in my opinion that sort of rules out the valves as the oil was on the piston rather than the valve area ....I put everything back together and gave it a run of a few miles and checked compression again and all was within a few psi of each other ..  my point to this is the rings don't need too much bedding in .. 

very frustrating after all your hard work ,I would  check your compression with the oil test and it may point you in the right direction of your problem ....possibly check your gauge as well ??   
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2019, 07:26:35 AM

The leak down tester is sending me up the  wall.I try TDC and a fraction before,but it just spins.Are you supposed to lock engine?how?


It just spins??? what the air pressure turns the motor?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 23, 2019, 09:45:53 AM
Having to use about 100 psi to get dial at SET position..
Spin was the wrong word (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/embarrassed.gif)
From what I think is TDC  the pressure whacks it down to BDC
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2019, 10:17:05 AM
Put it in gear
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 26, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
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That's better I think.

Tried putting it in gear with wheels chocked and Brake lever roped tight.Would lurch backwards or forwards.There is a sweetspot but I'm finding it very difficult to find.
So fek it.
Put in new clutch plates and springs this afters because I could get the clutch slipping if I cracked the throttle open.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: xsalan on September 26, 2019, 07:56:34 PM
I had to change clutch as well john when carb upgrade.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: bradster on September 26, 2019, 10:07:52 PM
Yup an ol worn clutch cant hide when things are running sweet ...ditto..

How did you get along  with tge lack of compression ?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on September 26, 2019, 10:45:25 PM
Have only highish compression on no1cylinder,the rest poor.Oil down plugholes makes no difference.
Wont bother checking till 500 miles at oil change and refitting of oil cooler.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: bradster on September 26, 2019, 10:57:17 PM
That's a bit of a head scratcher  ...interesting to hear what the  answer to the compression loss ...hope it sorts itself   ..
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on October 04, 2019, 08:02:04 PM
A number of people have asked me for a price to buy the green thing! I Know (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/shocked.gif)
Just done a tot up of new parts used and that came to over 1500 (http://www.xs1100.com/forum/PleaseDontLink/classic/shocked.gif)
Whats the thing worth considering ,no tax/mot required?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: FJ111200 on October 06, 2019, 08:13:46 AM
407. Sell it.
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2019, 02:28:31 PM
407. Sell it.

Haha thats a blast from the past
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: annie on October 09, 2019, 03:25:14 PM
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Finding it hard to get suitable plug chops in my Busy area.
The  above is 1/4 throttle, 80mph in second gear for almost a minute before I ran out of space!
How do I do 1/2 throttle,1st gear?
Title: Re: Green Thing
Post by: xsalan on October 09, 2019, 04:13:50 PM
I only do plug chops on dual carriage way at between 70 to 80 mph cause that's the speed i ride at most of the time,so that's the mixture i want to check.